Monthly Archives: July 2008

Bill’s valiant attempt at evaluating minor league performance

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Today’s Scouting Report of the Week goes to Homer Bailey in yesterday’s thriller. Here’s what Bill came up with, after what I’m sure was hours of tedious research.

4-7 in AAA

Top Prospect

First Start in Milwaukee

4-7 in AAA. Dan had this one pegged. “I have to think AAA win-loss records tell you even less about performance than major league win-loss records.”

Top Prospect. Well which is it Bill? Was he 4-7 in AAA this year, or is he a top prospect? Clearly both are not possible! Bill also gave a nice spiel here about how ‘at some point, if you don’t succeed in the majors you lose that prospect status.’ Yes, I’m sure after he averaged 9.3 strikeouts per nine innings in his minor league career and dominated some levels of the minors the Reds are just about ready to kick the 22-year-old Homer Bailey to the curb after 57 2/3 major league innings. He had elite prospect status as recently as last season, but he’s clearly no more than Ben Hendrickson now.

First start in Milwaukee. Somewhat interesting? I guess. Relevant as a scouting report? …You bet your buttons!

Return of the Beefcake

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Clearly the player of the game was Dave Bush, but three doubles are three doubles.  Strike up a pose Gabe; it’s been awhile.

So what do you guys think?  Is that a menacing glare, or is he just fighting off the sun?

Rich Harden and Dan Haren: More than one person

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Haven’t said much about other Brewers stuff, largely due to CC mania. Feels like cornucopia time.

  • Sometimes I get the feeling that people don’t realize Rich Harden and Dan Haren are, in fact, not the same person. People mix these up as much as any two players I can remember. Normally this just happens with fans, but I couldn’t help but notice this blurb from TH’s article this morning: Chicago followed the Brewers’ acquisition of Sabathia by trading for Oakland ace Dan Haren but Yost said he gave no thought to that tit-for-tat. This means that Tom and at least one editor both missed that. Everyone has brain cramps, but man, that trade was made like two days ago.
  • Speaking of the Harden trade, that’s a pretty big bummer. The news of the deal broke just a couple hours before Sabathia’s debut, and it put a bit of a damper on it for me. It’s definitely a risk for Chicago, because Harden makes Sheets look as durable as Cal Ripken, but it’s a risk well worth taking. The Cubs gave up some nice players, particularly Sean Gallagher, but it wasn’t a huge haul by any means. The key is that Harden, unlike Sabathia, has one year remaining on his contract after this season. This just shows how much Harden’s injury propensity hurt his trade value. If Harden stays healthy it’s a steal for the Cubs, but that if should probably be in like 100 pt font. Also, I’d rather see him go to the Cubs than the Cardinals, Phillies or Mets. I’m still targeting the wild card.
  • My guess is Ben Sheets starts the All-Star Game, but it’s mainly because a lack of other options. Brandon Webb and Tim Lincecum will only be on one day of rest, so they’ll only pitch one inning, if at all. Edison Volquez should be the choice, but he starts on Saturday against the Brewers and will only be on two days’ rest. Plus I just don’t see Clint “Bootspur” Hurdle going with a rookie, because he’s not veteran-y enough. That leaves Dan Haren, Aaron Cook and Sheets. I don’t see Hurdle going with his pitcher, Cook, because his numbers are only good, not great like Sheets’ or Haren’s. Sheets and Haren have similar numbers (Haren’s are just slightly better), but I think it will be Sheets for a couple dumb reasons: 1) This is Haren’s first year in the NL, and I can definitely see Hurdle holding that against him. 2) Sheets has two more wins than Haren. Bootspur is that “old school” manager who has put Willy “.303 on-base percentage” Taveras in the leadoff spot a mind-boggling 63 times this season because he’s fast, so the odds seem pretty high that he also values wins from a pitcher.
  • Moving to another All-Star Game topic, it looks like Corey Hart might win the last spot on the NL team. I personally haven’t voted yet because I can’t vote for Hart over Pat Burrell in good conscience. Burrell’s season is just destroying Hart’s—he has a 1.00 OPS (!!) compared to Hart’s .846. Absolutely embarrassing that Hurdle didn’t select Burrell.
  • Guillermo Mota has more than worn out his welcome. Call up Luis Pena or Mark DiFelice and DFA this human pitching machine.
  • One day after Glendon Freaking Rusch pwned the Brewers, another old friend will try to do the same. Jorge de la Rosa. I was enamored by him when the Brewers got him, but he just couldn’t get his control together. It was incredibly frustrating to watch. Hopefully he has the same type of outing today.

Finally, we fell behind on Bill’s Scouting Report of the Week with all the trade stuff, so here’s a shortened one. Yesterday’s report for Sheets:

Just Be Ben Priceless. “Ok, Ben. Don’t be CC Sabathia or Dave Burba or Charles Nagy or Jack McDowell. Be Ben Sheets. Got it?”

Curve This Time Referring to last time he faced the Rockies, when he didn’t have the curve. Well it’s in Milwaukee now, so why even bring this up? He’ll obviously be able to throw the curve.

Fastball Early Sheets mainly has two pitches. He throws the fastball the majority of the time. I don’t get this?

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Edit:  I didn’t forget about Carlos Zambrano; I actually was thinking he wouldn’t pitch in the game because he recently came off the DL.  Wouldn’t surprise me to see him start the ASG either.

An even deal

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Just quickly wanted to share this great analysis of the trade by Victor Wang of THT.   He  gives every aspect of the deal a dollar amount, including the Brewers increased chances of reaching the post-season, and the trade comes up just about even.

Now that you have C.C., time to ease off Sheets

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Well, it’s finally done. Those talks dragged out all weekend, and for a while it looked like Cleveland might foolishly turn down the Brewers offer, which was much better than any other they were getting. As I’ve said repeatedly, I really hate losing LaPorta for someone the Brewers won’t control beyond this season.

Since it’s done and over with, I won’t dwell too much on how much they may have overpaid, because if they make the playoffs it’s probably worth it, and if they go deep into the playoffs it will be worth it almost for sure. The Brewers do get two comp picks back for Sabathia as well.

Quick side note before I get into the meat of this post: Tom Haudricourt was absolutely awesome this weekend. He made several updates to the JS blog, and continually scooped both the national writers and Cleveland writers. Props to TH.

On to the main event. Doug Melvin truly put his neck on the line by doing this deal. The Brewers absolutely need to make the playoffs after giving up such a huge offer for a rental player. I don’t think I need to explain why a Sheets-Sabathia tandem would be outstanding for the playoffs, but first things first: make sure they get there, and make sure both pitchers are healthy when it happens.

Baseball Prospectus has developed what they call Pitcher Abuse Points (PAPs). You can find a description of their formula here, but basically it a weighed system that starts earning points for each pitch beyond the 100 mark in a game. Why am I bringing this up? Because as of July 5, your most abused pitcher in baseball is none other than Ben Sheets. You can see the full list with categories at BP’s page. A quick summary of the top ten:

1. Ben Sheets

2. Gil Meche

3. Ricky Nolasco

4. Cole Hamels

5. C.C. Sabathia

6. Carlos Zambrano

7. Justin Verlander

8. Jon Lester

9. Tim Lincecum

10. Brett Myers

Now this list can be a bit misleading, as you notice many of the pitchers are “abused” because they happen to be very good pitchers, and very good pitchers have a knack to pitch deeper into games. That said, it’s never good to be number one on this list.

I have complained more than once this season that Ned Yost has kept Ben Sheets in games far too long when the situation has not at all called for it. A couple examples:

Friday’s game against the Pirates when they sent him out in the sixth when he was already over 100 pitches and the team was leading 8-1. He finished the game with 120 pitches, and was not even able to finish the sixth.

Another example was in Minnesota for The Kevin Slowey Game. Slowey looked like Maddux in his prime, and Sheets was struggling to find an out pitch. Sheets had allowed four runs through six, and it was pretty clear that the Brewers probably weren’t even going to score four runs against Slowey. Yet Yost ran him out there for the seventh, needlessly pushing Ben’s pitch count to 115.

Totals of 115 and 120 are huge red flags and put up big PAPs. It seems the Brewers coaching staff are dead set in their thinking that Ben is the ace, and therefore must save the bullpen every time out, regardless of how efficient he is pitching. Sheets is obviously outstanding, and has an amazing ability to throw complete games. That should not mean that he should be left out to toil when he is not on top of his game. 110-pitch complete games are one thing, 120-pitch seven inning outings are quite another. Infamously, Sheets has not quite been a model of health in recent years, and it is moronic to tempt fate with the most important player on your team.

A lot of it has to do with the bullpen struggling to get the ball to Sal Torres, and some of it has to do with other starters (COUGH-SUPPAN-COUGH) not going deep enough and burning up the bullpen.

Getting Sabathia needs to be the start of the process that lessens Sheets’ workload to do everything possible to keep him healthy through September (and hopefully October). C.C. is another guy who goes deep into games, which will hep save the bullpen. Some of you astute readers may have noticed that Sabathia is also on that list; he checks in as the fifth-most abused pitcher of 2008, which is also a cause for concern. Sabathia was dominant last season, but was lit up in the playoffs. Nobody can say for sure, but this may have partially been a result of a tired arm from throwing 241 innings during the season.

The Brewers should be able to ease off C.C. and Sheets a bit this season for a few reasons:

  • One of Bush or McClung will be moved to the bullpen (here’s hoping Mota is DFA’d!), which will hopefully improve the bullpen’s depth and talent level.
  • Even while easing off Sheets and C.C., they will still pitch deeper into games than average pitchers, which will in turn keep the bullpen fresher–in turn, if one of these two guys are off their game, the bullpen should be good to come in a bit earlier.
  • I fully expect the Brewers to add at least one more pitcher (likely a reliever), which will bolster the bullpen even more.

I’m sure Doug Melvin and Ned Yost are anxious for the advice of a random blogger with no connections and limited readership, so here it is. Doug, Ned, you took a huge gamble with the Sabathia trade, and it’s commendable that you were willing to make that move to win this year. That said, it would be devastating to screw it up by riding Ben Sheets into the ground. You have the pieces in place, and you’lll be adding more in the next couple weeks to fine-tune the team for a championship run. If Ben Sheets and C.C. Sabathia stay healthy, the team is a huge favorite to make the playoffs. The number one concern should be to keep Sheets healthy, so Brewers, please take better care of his arm.

Also, see if you can get Mark A to bring back the lemonade stands at Miller Park. That stuff is fantastic.

C.C. Mania!

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I was out and about yesterday when someone told me the Brewers had traded Matt LaPorta and J.J. Hardy for C.C. Sabathia. Others confirmed this, and I immediately called Dan and my brother to share my misery. After I found out that the report wasn’t true, I relaxed a bit, but not a lot. The Brewers and Indians were definitely in talks, and I was terrified of what the Brewers might give up.

The JS reported last night that the Brewers’ current offer is Matt LaPorta, Taylor Green and Lorenzo Cain. I have a few thoughts on that:

  • The Indians aren’t going to find a better offer than that, and if that is truly the offer, I’d be very surprised if they don’t make the deal by Sunday.
  • Even though I know Melvin wouldn’t do it (well, like 99% sure), I was still terrified that Mat Gamel, Alcides Escobar or Jeremy Jeffress would end up in the deal along with LaPorta.
  • The current offer is STILL too much to give up for C.C. I don’t see how any team can rival the offer of LaPorta, Green and Cain. The Dodgers won’t give up Billingsley, Kershaw, Kemp or Loney. The Yankees won’t give up Chamberlain or Hughes. The Red Sox won’t give up any of their key guys because they’re already helping the big league team. And the Cubs don’t have the prospects to compete with the Brewers offer. The Brewers simply don’t need to give up LaPorta PLUS two more good prospects in Green and Cain.

I certainly understand the appeal for going for a rental. Ben Sheets is an impending free agent, and Prince Fielder may be traded as soon as this coming off-season, so there is certainly a temptation to take one big shot now and worry about the rest later.

The reason I say that is this: I see the Brewers as the wildcard favorite as things currently stand. Baseball Prospectus backs this up too; they give the Brewers a 34% chance at the wildcard, with the Cardinals in second at 28%. The Cubs are actually the third highest for the wildcard at 15%, which would likely mean the Brewers win the division in that scenario.

In others words, the Brewers may not even NEED C.C. to reach the post-season. I see the Sabathia move as more of a World Series move than playoff move. Obviously that isn’t a bad thing. If the Brewers won the World Series this season, it would be worth giving anyone. You obviously can’t guarantee a World Series though.

I’m finding myself in the minority (seems to be the ongoing trend lately), but I’d rather they not do this. I still strongly believe they need to re-sign Ben Sheets, and I sort of, in a wishfully-trying-to-convince- myself type of way, think they will bring Ben back. If they get Sheets back, there’s no need to put all the eggs in one basket for this year.

My vision for the 2009 team is as follows:

Re-sign Sheets. Trade an arby-eligible Prince Fielder who has no intention of signing long term for a young talented pitcher who you can control for multiple seasons–likely from an AL team so Prince can DH. Move LaPorta to first base.

I’d still like the Brewers to upgrade their pitching staff this season. So let’s say they get Greg Maddux for San Diego for much lesser prospects (can you say Tony Gwynn? OH PLZ PLZ PLZZ!!) These moves leave you with:

2008 Rotation

1. Sheets
2. Parra
3. Maddux
4. Suppan
5. Bush

Next year:

1. Sheets
2. Gallardo
3. *Pitcher from Fielder trade*
4. Parra
5. Who cares?

I understand people are ready to shoot for the World Series this season. I don’t hate the idea, and I definitely appreciate that line of thought. My preference though, is to construct the team in such a way that it is set to compete for the division and the playoffs every year. The playoffs are a crapshoot anyway; the goal should simply be to reach the post-season and try your luck.

Of course, if they do the C.C. trade, I’ll be intrigued as hell for the rest of the season, so, whatever.

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Reaching Goals is fun!

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Hard to say this road trip has been anything but good for the Brewers, and if they steal a victory today with Brandon Webb on the mound, it would be a great trip. It’s pretty amazing that they’ve managed a 5-4 trip to this point with virtually no production from Ryan Braun or Prince Fielder. Unfortunately, the Cardinals have stayed pretty hot. I still fully believe the Brewers are a better team, but if the Cards go out and land Matt Holliday I’d get very worried.

By the way, Dan and I were discussing at the start of the road trip what we’d be happy with, and he said if the Brewers went 6-4 he’d “run naked through the streets.” Don’t think I won’t hold him to that.